Don T Pass Craps System
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I’m writing a series of blog posts about casino games and the good and bad strategies for playing those games.
- Bet only on Don't Pass 1 unit( it may be 10,25, 50), if there is 7 on come out roll, don't worry, bet again on DP. If you bet 25 or more, it helps to throw $2 or 5 on Yo.( to cover 11) If the shooter wins then you lose that bet, then bet again DP double bet.
- Craps System Database. Mix of both methods.
Craps is one of my favorite casino games, so I’ve been looking forward to writing this one.
And the beautiful thing about craps is that it’s a game of pure chance. The best strategy is just to choose the bets with the lowest edge for the house and have fun.
But I’ll have some things to say about some of the strategies and systems that other writers promote, too.
They’re mostly bad craps strategies.
Here’s the Only Craps Strategy You Need
When you’re dealing with an entirely random game – like craps – the only strategy that matters is choosing the bets with the lowest house edge and having fun.
I’ll have something to say about shooters and whether they have control over the outcomes later in this post, but for now, let’s just agree that games like craps are purely chance.
In other games that are entirely random, like slot machines, you don’t even really need to decide which bet to place. It’s chosen for you before you sit down.
When playing craps for real money, you have a handful of good bets you can make, but most of the bets on the table are bad. Just skip the bad bets, and you’re all set.
The Bests Bets at the Craps Table
The best bets at the craps table are the pass line bet and the don’t pass bet.
The come and don’t come bets are also great wagers.
I always advise casino gamblers to try to limit their gambling to games where the house edge is lower than 2% — preferably 1.5% or lower.
The house edge for the pass and come bets is the same, 1.41%, which means they qualify.
The house edge for the don’t pass and don’t come bets is even lower, 1.36%, but the 0.05% isn’t worth worrying about. Most people prefer to root for the shooter to succeed.
The other bet to think about at the craps table is the odds bet. This is a bet you can only place after making one of the 4 bets I already mentioned and when the shooter has set a point.
This is one of the only bets in the casino that has no house edge. It’s a break-even bet, but it can be expensive.
It can also drive the effective house edge on the money you have in action down to almost nothing.
Here’s how that works.
How the Odds Bet Changes the House Edge for the Better
If you’re betting on the pass line and the shooter sets a point, you can expect to lose $1.41 for every $100 you bet. That’s on average and in the long run.
If you’re playing at a casino that only allows you to place an odds bet at 1X the size of your pass line bet, you can put another $100 into action.
Your expected loss remains $1.41, though, which effectively cuts the house edge in half, from 1.41% to 0.71%.
If you’re able to bet 2X your original bet on the odds bet, you can lower that even further to 0.36%. (You have $300 in action, but your expected loss is still only $1.41.)
The more you’re able to bet on the odds bet, the lower the house edge for all the money you have in action becomes.
It’s clear why betting on the pass line and taking the most odds that you can is an effective strategy. With the odds bet, you can get the house edge in craps lower than 0.5% at least some of the time at the table, making it an even better game than blackjack.
And what’s more, you don’t have to memorize basic strategy to get the low house edge at craps.
You just need a big enough casino bankroll to make the right bets, and you need enough sense to avoid the bad bets at the table – of which there are many.
Any Strategy that Involves Placing ANY Other Bets at the Craps Table Is a BAD Craps Strategy
There’s a reason gambling experts measure bets according to their house edge. That’s because it’s the single best indicator of how good or bad a bet is.
The house edge is a statistical estimate of how much money you’ll lose as a percentage of your original bet over the long run.
If the house edge is 1.41%, the casino expects to win an average of $1.41 every time you bet $100.
If the house edge is 16.66%, the casino expects to win an average of $16.66 every time you bet $100.
Which bet looks like the better bet for the casino?
And which one looks like the better bet for the gambler?
It shouldn’t be hard to make the distinction.
Even the best of the bad bets on the craps table are inferior to the 1.41% or 1.36% you can get from the pass, don’t pass, come, and don’t come bets.
And trust me on this:
You can have PLENTY of fun sticking with the basic bets at the craps table.
Betting Systems Where You Raise and Lower the Size of Your Bets Are Bad Strategies
The classic example of this kind of betting system is the Martingale System, where you double the size of your bets after each loss. When you do this repeatedly, you eventually win back the money you’ve lost along with a profit of one unit.
The problem with a system like the Martingale is that you’ll eventually run into a big enough losing streak that it will wipe out all those small profits and then some.
Most people underestimate how quickly a bet’s size gets when doubling after every loss.
They also overestimate how likely they are to avoid long losing streaks.
If you double a $5 bet once, that’s $10.
But if you run into a losing streak of 8 bets in a row, you’re looking at having to bet $640 to make up for your losses.
Also, every roll of the dice is an independent event. The odds don’t change based on how many times you’ve won or lost in a row.
You might think the probability of losing that 8th bet is lower than the likelihood of losing the first one, but the truth is that the dice have no memory. They have the same 6 sides, no matter how many times you’ve lost in a row.
Each bet in craps is an independent event, and any betting system will assume that the odds are changing based on how many times in a row you’ve won or lost.
Money Management Strategies Don’t Hurt Anything, but They Won’t Improve Your Odds of Winning, Either
Money management strategies involve having strict gambling discipline about how much of your bankroll you’re willing to risk before quitting the game. They also require you to stop when you’ve won an arbitrary amount of money.
Money management techniques are often used in conjunction with betting systems.
Here’s an example of a money management strategy in craps:
You decide your bankroll for the session is $250, and you’re playing for $5 per roll of the dice.
Your stop-loss limit is $100, so, if your bankroll drops to $150, you must quit the craps session and go do something else.
Your win goal is $250, so once your bankroll gets up to $500, you must quit the game and go do something else.
This kind of strategy might increase your chances of walking away from the game a winner.
But that’s only because a lot of gamblers will just keep playing until they’ve lost their entire stake. They just don’t generally have a lot of sense about that sort of thing.
The Jury’s Out on Dice Setting or Dice Control
I’ve seen multiple reputable gambling writers express interest and some belief that some craps shooters can influence the probability of specific outcomes. I’m skeptical – in the extreme – but I’ll give it an appropriate amount of credence.
The idea is that you hold the dice a specific way – “setting” the dice – then throw with a minimum amount of force – just enough to hit the back wall and eliminate most of the rolling action.
A controlled shooting expert doesn’t have to be perfect. Instead, they’re trying to be like someone who’s playing darts. They improve the probability enough to change the negative expectation on a bet to a positive expectation.
You can buy books and videos explaining how to get an edge at craps this way, but I can’t imagine the amount of practice and record-keeping required to have any confidence in your ability to change the odds.
Imagine if you spent 1000 hours trying to learn how to control the dice and coming up short. Maybe you just don’t have the knack for it.
That doesn’t sound like a good deal to me.
I’d rather learn to count cards in blackjack.
Conclusion
Those are the best and the worst of the strategies I know of for playing craps in the casino. I know plenty of people who would disagree with every recommendation I’ve made, but the math behind the game doesn’t lie.
The best strategy is to stick with the bets with the lowest house edge and have as much fun as you can.
Seriously, there is such a slight difference between Do and Don't (and that difference is affected by a higher bankroll requirement) that tossing a coin openly is about as sensible a system as going by the number of drinks on the waitresses tray. Or perhaps go by the stickman's patter... switch from Come to DontCome based upon some thing in his spiel.
What are the some of the myths on whether someone is lucky or not? First time female shooters are said to be lucky while first time males are not. What else?
What are the some of the myths on whether someone is lucky or not?
If I'm at the table betting pass/come, then the shooter is probably terrible.btw the reason the above statement cannot be supported statistically [that one person who was lucky will continue to be lucky] is because there is an invisibile Gremlin in charge. Once it spots someone taking statistics everything becomes random again [g]
Therefore, the only system that the casino would fear would be the one to bet DP on the first roll of the shooter. If the shooter proves to you they know what they are doing by making the first point, then follow the hot hand, and bet the PL w/ full odds. If the shooter is setting the dice then they are obviously a pro, and are going to make you lots of money. However, you still need to bet DP on their first roll each time, just to make sure they have their A game. But once the setter makes point one, it is best to double your PL bet and take full odds. If you are truly a gambler of course, you will continue to double your PL bet after each point is made. Using this strategy, and a cold table, save for one dice setter who makes 4 points, this system should easily net you $7,000-$10,000. And the beauty is, you're not really gambling. You are using your mind to recognize the dice setting pro, and then taking advantage of the situation. You must remain alert though. If the stick or box catch on to the dice setter, they will try and get into his/her head. You must watch closely, and if you see that about to happen, you will want to reduce your bet, to minimize your risk.
Craps Don't Pass Odds Payout
I myself would use this system, but I don't want to fill out all paperwork required when you win large sums of money at the casino.
Well, since I almost always play PL with 10X odds, AND since I have been getting mostly killed for the past year, you can deduce that not too many points are being made.
Therefore, the only system that the casino would fear would be the one to bet DP on the first roll of the shooter. If the shooter proves to you they know what they are doing by making the first point, then follow the hot hand, and bet the PL w/ full odds. If the shooter is setting the dice then they are obviously a pro, and are going to make you lots of money. However, you still need to bet DP on their first roll each time, just to make sure they have their A game. But once the setter makes point one, it is best to double your PL bet and take full odds. If you are truly a gambler of course, you will continue to double your PL bet after each point is made. Using this strategy, and a cold table, save for one dice setter who makes 4 points, this system should easily net you $7,000-$10,000. And the beauty is, you're not really gambling. You are using your mind to recognize the dice setting pro, and then taking advantage of the situation. You must remain alert though. If the stick or box catch on to the dice setter, they will try and get into his/her head. You must watch closely, and if you see that about to happen, you will want to reduce your bet, to minimize your risk.
I myself would use this system, but I don't want to fill out all paperwork required when you win large sums of money at the casino.
I seldom reply just to say 'good one' but I have to admit I got a good chuckle out that!
PS: do you really only do 10X odds?
I usually will go join the Right Bettors if a sweet young thing is shooting irrespective of her level of experience.
While I'll go the dark side if its an obnoxious drunk about to shoot, I'll stay on the pass line if its just a drunk who has not been obnoxious.
If the shooter proves to you they know what they are doing by making the first point, then follow the hot hand, and bet the PL w/ full odds.
If that's your plan, you'll probably end up at a table where everyone makes one, and only one, pass.No matter what method you use, or what pattern you seek, history does not predict the future.